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Offline Houston George

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Re: Nice little package, but on the fence on price
« Reply #50 on: March 19, 2017, 07:46:02 PM »
This may be a dumb question, but without TTL, does it automatically enter HSS mode when the shutter speed exceeds standard sync? or is that a manual adjustment. 
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Re: Nice little package, but on the fence on price
« Reply #51 on: March 20, 2017, 09:45:48 AM »
Not dumb, I had to (GASP!) read the manual before I found it to test.  I was looking on the remote, as on some other units.  If you look at the photo of the strobe, HSS is the 'lightning arrow' button with the H, immediately under the Menu button.  The button just below the HSS is the modeling lamp, a 10w LED with 3 positions - dim, bright, brighter - but it works.

I believe that if it were the TTL edition, that would be an auto function, as you surmised.  I'll check that out myself when I can.  At the moment it's packed away in prep for a client shoot.  I'm trying to arrange a real world test with a model soon.  Bottom line, unless or until something changes in my experience of this light, I find myself wishing my other 10 strobes - all Paul Buff - were AD600's as well.  Since I try to stay in the real world, that won't happen, but it will be the foundation of my lighting "go bag" for location quick stuff, augmented by Canon speedlights on Phottix Odins for maximum compatibility.

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Re: Nice little package, but on the fence on price
« Reply #52 on: March 20, 2017, 05:53:52 PM »
Ok, so you're exclusively in either HSS or standard flash mode and must switch between the two. Sounds easy enough with the push of a button, and I assume the transmitter will enable HSS too. I'm curious to hear about the HSS output.
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Re: Nice little package, but on the fence on price
« Reply #53 on: March 20, 2017, 10:27:54 PM »
Let's see some samples!
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Re: Nice little package, but on the fence on price
« Reply #54 on: March 21, 2017, 04:55:59 PM »
Wouldn't you just enable HSS and not worry about it? The switch is no different from say a 580EX-II where you enable HSS mode otherwise you cap at 1/256. I assume this switch does the same thing for the strobe?

In other words, you don't "Switch over". You simply allow the flash to enter into high speed zone versus don't allow it.
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Re: Nice little package, but on the fence on price
« Reply #55 on: March 22, 2017, 09:27:36 AM »
I haven't confirmed this yet, but it seems from reading that the HSS button, once activated, will remain in operation, even if you drop the shutter speed to the normal sync speed for a time, then return to higher shutter speeds.  What I'll want to confirm is whether the HSS setting reverts to a default of non-HSS once you turn the strobe unit off, change batteries, turn the R2 off, turn off the camera, etc.

I need to arrange a test with a model, but the one I'd settled on is in Ohio for the week.  I can seek another or wait.  The days have been very chopped up with smaller jobs and meetings, too.  To go out and play with it, I want 2-4 hours with nothing pressing so I can put it through some paces and learn real world limitations and benefits.

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Re: Nice little package, but on the fence on price
« Reply #56 on: March 22, 2017, 12:19:29 PM »
That will be interesting to see. If it is not a hard switch, does it remember the last setting? That could be a good or bad thing, depending on shooting style.
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Re: Nice little package, but on the fence on price
« Reply #57 on: March 22, 2017, 12:30:32 PM »
FWIW, the Witstro AD360 does not remember the setting if the device is disconnected from the power supply. It DOES remember it so long as you remain connected to the battery (whether it is on or off).

Also something I never realized is that the AD360 only has power adjustments of 1/1, 1/8, 1/4 and 1/2 when using HSS mode. Does the AD600 allow the full power range?
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Re: Nice little package, but on the fence on price
« Reply #58 on: March 25, 2017, 11:03:18 PM »
Well, after waiting for an opportunity to use the Flashpoint AD600 in a working situation, here are some unretouched jpegs from today's shoot.  Model Katie is extraordinary, and the AD600 was able to keep up under conditions I considered to be extreme.  Namely, HSS with my 5DMKIII set for the faster motor drive (up to 7 frames per second).  If you understand what HSS is requiring of a flash, this, to me, is remarkable performance.  I'm shooting in low light, cloudy (about to rain) daylight at ISO 400, 1/500 sec, f4.5 for the black outfit and for the red dress, ISO 800, in heavy shadow, f4 1/400 sec.  Both obviously requiring high speed sync at those shutter speeds, and it didn't miss a frame.  The power settings are 1/128 and 1/128 +.3 through a 36" octobox camera left.  For the red dress, a second light was added for separation; a Canon 580EXII fired through a 20 degree MagMod Grid and MagSphere, to shape and soften, at 1/8 power.  All strobes controlled and triggered from the camera by wireless remotes; the R2 for the AD600, and a Phottix Odin for the Canon.   The main light is from 4-5 feet from Katie.  The series is an example of the consistency maintained throughout high frame rate bursts with HSS.  The HSS did go a tad magenta, but that's an easy correction.
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